Can The EU Actually BAN Car Modifying??

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Can The EU Actually BAN Car Modifying??

16 comments, 259 views, posted 12:20 am 22/08/2012 in Automotive by djskitzy
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this is really bad news, and it looks like it's not going to be stopped... this is going to completely ruin a whole lot of people's lives.... not everyone can just go and buy a new car and throw away the car they've spent thousands on.....

ACE has always been of the opinion that modifying of vehicles would eventually end by the ability to do so being slowly eroded by small pieces of legislation rather than one single regulation.

We have unfortunately now been proved correct with a single item before the EC parliament that will prevent any modifying and will, currently, render already modified cars illegal.

Without a large effort over the next 6 weeks this ’proposal’ will pass into law very shortly afterwards.

We have in our possession a questionnaire issued by DfT asking for views on the legislation and we feel it couldn’t make any clearer the end outcome.

This is NOT a Consultation document as there are no active documents via VOSA or DfT relating to this legislation.

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1:04 am 22/08/2012

Flee

Quote by djskitzy:

render already modified cars illegal.

Thats a big piece of BS right there... you can't penalize people for something done before the law was passed.

For example, if the car was made before seat belts were mandatory, you don't need to add them to the car as it would ruin the value of an antique. Doesthe same apply in the EU/UK?

4:24 am 22/08/2012

djskitzy

Quote by Flee:

Doesthe same apply in the EU/UK?

the only exepmt cars will be "those of historical value"

b/s way of saying "if we don't like you, bend over so we can fuck you"

4:25 am 22/08/2012

Flee

scunts.

the first "s" is for serious

4:34 am 22/08/2012

djskitzy

the proposal says cars should be the same as the date of manufacture, so no they couldn't make you put seatbelts in a car that never had them, but it does not specify if, for example, you can change the stereo, or speakers....

this is gonna be really bad if it's enforced, and that's gonna be easy to do within a year, really, just fail every non standard car on it's next MOT, which is every 12 months. Job done. 8 million cars off the road, and probably half that buying new cars, when the government give them a "compensation" cheque that can only be used to buy a new car.

(the compensation hasn't been mentioned, but I'd bet a grand they'll blag people into accepting it this way... wave cash under their noses and all of a sudden those bling rims mean shit)

4:40 am 22/08/2012

Flee

won't this kill the entire after market car parts industry?

Car companies behind this so they can be the only people allowed to mod cars legally? won't really be modding, but will car companies suddenly have options for cars that include rims, skirts, turbos, etc?

7:51 am 22/08/2012

bradpitt

you'll most likely be able to mod just means you'll need a IVA inspection or something > http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/BuyingAndSellingAVehicle/ImportingAndExportingAVehicle/DG_177879

this is bloody stupid though!

10:52 am 22/08/2012

bradpitt

just historic Vehicles:

from: http://fbhvc.co.uk/survey-2011/

The research programme looked into five main areas: economic value; employment; number and use of historic vehicles; social activity and concerns for the future. The title of the report, “The £4 Billion Hobby”, shows the overall headline result. Other findings include:

» £4.3 billion overall value
» Nearly £1 billion in exports
» Over 28,000 people employed
» 57% of businesses are over 20 years old
» 850,000 historic vehicles
» 82% of historic vehicles are used no more than twice a month
» Historic vehicle are responsible for less than 0.24% of overall traffic
» 68% of historic vehicles are valued at less than £10,000
» 4.5 million person-attendances a year at events organised by FBHVC clubs
» 52% of traders expect their businesses to grow in next 5 years

12:39 pm 22/08/2012

djskitzy

if this became law, I'd have to buy a standard set of wheels for my zed, and remove the side skirts...

1:09 pm 22/08/2012

marksyzm

What about restoration then?

2:58 pm 22/08/2012

bradpitt

Quote by djskitzy:

if this became law, I'd have to buy a standard set of wheels for my zed, and remove the side skirts...

yeah thank f*ck I got rid of that VXR would have been impossible to return to spec...

..though i can see some positives here...

8:57 pm 22/08/2012

griffin

‘roadworthiness test’ means a verification that the parts and components of a vehicle
comply with its safety and environmental characteristics in force at the time of
approval, first registration or entry into service, as well as at the time of retrofitting;

http://ec.europa.eu/transport/doc/roadworthiness-package/com%282012%29380.pdf

My understanding is that is must meet requirements in force when the car was build. So you can add seatbelts if you wish, but you don't have to if the car was registered in 1950 or whatever and didn't have any originally.

8:59 pm 22/08/2012

Flee

That reads like they are more concerned about emissions and the general safety rating of the car, and any modifications done to the car, must still meet those requirements.

That I could agree with.

9:40 pm 22/08/2012

djskitzy

read it carefully... the car must remain as per manufacturers specification at date of manufacture...

9:59 pm 22/08/2012

DarkHelmet

You just have to start doing MOTs at your new shop and let all the modified cars pass...you will go down in history as a true hero of the people.

10:00 pm 22/08/2012

Flee

Then he would be djsketchy

11:26 pm 22/08/2012

griffin

Quote by djskitzy:

read it carefully... the car must remain as per manufacturers specification at date of manufacture...

Nope. "comply with its safety and environmental characteristics in force at the time of approval"

Gotta obey the laws that were in force when it was built. So any mods would have to meet emission standards in force when the car was built. I don't see it saying anything about manufacturer's specifications being enforced down the road.

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