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Anatomy of fake news...

22 comments, 315 views, posted 10:10 pm 15/02/2017 in Politics by Quaektem
Quaektem has 1442 posts, 56 threads, 190 points, location: MA
I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.

In this thread Trump Aides Had Repeated Contacts With Russian Intelligence Flee asked:

Quote by Flee:
How would this not have come out before he was elected?

It did.
... in October http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/10/veteran-spy-gave-fbi-info-alleging-russian-operation-cultivate-donald-trump
.. then redacted https://mobile.nytimes.com/2016/11/01/us/politics/fbi-russia-election-donald-trump.html?_r=2
... and then November https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/11/world/europe/trump-campaign-russia.html?_r=0
... then December http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/dec/18/russia-love-was-trump-campaign-touch-foreign-gover/

Even now, the article still states very clearly

The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.

Guess what, they didn't have any evidence in October, November or December either.

All bullshit.

What a shocker.

Extra Points Given by:

REALITY (10), Flee (10), LordViscera (10)

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3:42 am 16/02/2017

backroom

Quote by Quaektem:
The officials interviewed in recent weeks said that, so far, they had seen no evidence of such cooperation.


Context.
The sentence immediately before that in the article sets it....

Quote:
The intelligence agencies then sought to learn whether the Trump campaign was colluding with the Russians on the hacking or other efforts to influence the election.


There does not have to be collusion from the campaign for Russia to try to influence the election.
There can be collusion on many fronts not including influencing the election.
Collusion and influence are not interchangeable nor are they codependent.

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3:48 am 16/02/2017

Quaektem

Four months. Nothing found. It's a non-story. Fake news, period.

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3:57 am 16/02/2017

Quaektem

And there is no evidence Russia 'hacked' the election either. All bullshit. The funny thing about you lefties is that you're more concerned that Podesta's emails got out than that Sanders (who would have beaten Trump) was denied a fair, democratic race against Hillary. Seriously, had I been a Democrat I would have left the party... but I actually care about integrity over politics. I left the GOP under W over McCain/Feingold, McCain was the first Republican presidential canidade I voted against. I did clench up and vote Romney, but I voted Johnson last year because... well fuck me.

Let's be honest. We have enough shit on Trump without making shit up. Stick to his tweets and the truth, the more this fake crap prevails the more you rally support behind him.

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4:02 am 16/02/2017

backroom

Quote by Quaektem:
Four months. Nothing found. It's a non-story. Fake news, period.


2 completely different stories.
Combining them does injustice to both.
To say there was no contact because there is no proof of collusion is innocently naïve. We know you are neither.
Period.

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4:03 am 16/02/2017

backroom

Quote by Quaektem:
Stick to his tweets and the truth


They are diametrically opposed and wont stick to each other.

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4:09 am 16/02/2017

backroom

Quote by Quaektem:
Seriously, had I been a Democrat I would have left the party... but I actually care about integrity over politics.


You one trick ponies can do short sighted things like that.
Politics means more to me than a Presidential election.
It's about the down stream elections... you know... city, county, state legislature, governor, congress, senate...
Races that actually make a difference in my life.

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4:11 am 16/02/2017

Quaektem

/sigh. Two different stories, one legal one not. The press has been hinting at the latter while referring to the former.

Quote:
It's about the down stream elections... you know... city, county, state legislature, governor, congress, senate...
Races that actually make a difference in my life.

Considering the absolute thrashing you took last election... how's that working out for ya?

As for one trick ponies... how many different party candidates have you voted for? I have voted Republican, Democratic, Libertarian and Independent in my voting record. Hardly 'one trick' ... or was the word you were looking for 'principled'?

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4:31 am 16/02/2017

backroom

Quote by Quaektem:
how many different party candidates have you voted for


All of them... except D and R... in just this last election.(Libertarian, Working Families, Green, Conservative, Independence, Women's Equality...) Same as every election for decades.
Minor party lines are fantastic and using them keeps the parties in the game.

Quote by Quaektem:
Hardly 'one trick' ... or was the word you were looking for 'principled'


No. my wording is correct and refers to your stance on "lefties".

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2:43 pm 16/02/2017

dr3n

It's not fake news.. It's alternative news!

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3:31 pm 16/02/2017

Flee

I know they mentioned it. First link even has the word "alleging" in it.

What I am saying(and what you are saying) is that clearly the speculation/conjecture never panned out(or has yet to pan out). If it did, he would have been charged or removed from the race.

Since there are so many dead set on his removal, why is it so hard to get concrete data? Isn't Anon targeting him? If there was a piece of data out there, news agencies would be all over it, yet there is just more speculation.

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3:37 pm 16/02/2017

Flee

Im not saying it never happened, just that there is yet to be any evidence.

Does civilised society not say "innocent until proven guilty"? Seems many have made up their minds already. Those that have, should be ashamed of themselves(imo). Now, it may turn out that this speculation is true, but to deem a man guilty without evidence and due process is shameful.

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3:38 pm 16/02/2017

Flee

Ill be the first to suggest they hang Trump for Treason.... once a judge finds him guilty of such action.

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4:50 pm 16/02/2017

LordViscera

Quote by Quaektem:
And there is no evidence Russia 'hacked' the election either. All bullshit. The funny thing about you lefties is that you're more concerned that Podesta's emails got out than that Sanders (who would have beaten Trump) was denied a fair, democratic race against Hillary.


That's it in a nutshell. So the make america hate again is the dems fault, because they could have stopped their perceived nightmare from coming true. Sad

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11:27 pm 16/02/2017

Vormid

Nothing acted upon does not equal nothing found.

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11:34 pm 16/02/2017

Flee

Some people say cucumbers taste better pickled.

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11:39 pm 16/02/2017

Vormid

Some people say Canadians are socialists.

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12:08 am 17/02/2017

REALITY

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12:22 am 17/02/2017

Vormid

He's got a lot of firing to do...starting with himself. He has no concept of OpSec.

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12:41 am 17/02/2017

Flee

I am still dumbfounded he won. We have a press conference about the press

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12:44 am 17/02/2017

Vormid

Quote by Flee:
I am still dumbfounded he won. We have a press conference about the press



It has electrolytes!

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3:26 am 17/02/2017

backroom

Quote by LordViscera:
That's it in a nutshell.


When myopic people look at politics in nutshells stupid things happen like bombastic, truth challenged narcissists being elected.

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