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I'm Sure This Will Be Considered Fake News

10 comments, 423 views, posted 1:24 am 24/12/2016 in Rantings & Flame Bait by LordViscera
LordViscera has 15670 posts, 2042 threads, 14 points, location: 1123 6536 5321
Jarl of Glencoe

Tonight on Tucker Carlson tonight was the transcript of the letter that a friend of his who is a columnist received anonymously and I was so taken by the content I'm going to reproduce it here .

"In the wake of Trump's election, I am experiencing " tribe fatigue " I am not tired of the other , detestable tribe. I'm tired of my own . November 8 and its aftermath revealed to me that I'm just so tired of these people. I can't be like them, and I don't want my kids turning into them. I am tired of their undisguised contempt for tens of millions of Americans, with no effort to temper the response to the election with humility or empathy. I am tired of their unexamined snobbery and condescension. I am tired of their name-calling and virtue signaling and signs of supposedly high intelligence . I'm tired of their trendiness, jumping on every left liberal bandwagon that comes along (transgender activism, anyone?) and then acting like everyone not on board is an idiot or hater.


I am tired of their shallowness. It's hard to have a deep conversation with people who are obsessed with moving their kids pawns across-the-board (grades, sports, college, grad school, career) and, in their spare time, educating themselves and taking great vacations. I am tired of their acceptance of vulgarity and sarcasm with reverence as the cultural ocean in which their kids swim. I am tired of watching them raise clueless kids go off to college and within months are convinced they live in a rapey, racist patriarchy; "Make America Great Again" is hate speech and Black-Lives-Matter agitators are their brothers in arms against white privilege. If my kids are like that at 19, I'll feel I seriously failed them as a parent. I am tired of their lack of interest in any form of serious morality or self-betterment. These are decent, responsible people, many compassionate by temperament.


Yet they seem two-dimensional, as if they believe that being a nice, well socialized person who holds the correct political views is all there is, and there is nothing else to talk about. I am tired of being bored and exasperated by everybody. I feel like I have read this book a thousand times, there are no surprises in it. Down with Trump! Trans-Lives-Matter! Climate deniers are destroying the planet! No cake, we're gluten-free! These are good people in a lot of ways but there's got to be a better tribe.


That leads me to. . . Drum roll. . . The Christian right. Since November 8, My husband and I have been taking the kids to church. I've come this close to buying a giant poster of the American flag for the living room. I may do it still. I want to prepare my kids to live according to some unchanging truth, not subject to every passing trend, and this felt like a start. This may seem obvious to you, but secular liberalism does seem empty in someway, despite all the things my educated, middle-class tribe has to be grateful for. I want more, especially for my precious kids. I'm trying. "

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1:39 am 24/12/2016

z0phi3l

Well DUH

Anything that is not the leftist racist socialist/communist pushing failed agenda is indeed "fake news" the only reality is their own fake one where white people don't exist and everyone is a trans gay non white woman

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3:40 am 24/12/2016

LordViscera

Here is the actual letter from the source, Tucker posted this after I did my post

Quote:
I’m a secular/agnostic Californian and longtime reader of your blog. I’ve enjoyed your books beginning with Crunchy Cons, and have valued your insights over the years.

Though you don’t know me, I feel like I know you and your family. And I want to share with you, from the liberal bastion of Northern California, that I am officially tired of the type of people who have surrounded me my entire life. In the wake of Trump’s election, I am experiencing “tribe fatigue.” I’m not tired of The Other, Detestable Tribe. I’m tired of my own.

A bit about me: I am a [deleted] with two young children. My parents were non-religious Democrats, and my ex-Catholic mom loathes organized religion to this day.

So I was raised a secular liberal. My college professors were secular liberals. During my journalism phase, my newspaper colleagues were secular liberals. My law school professors and peers were – in the vast majority – secular liberals. Almost everyone at my corporate law firm was a secular liberal. My California neighbors and friends are secular liberals, as are my colleagues. My mother, siblings, and their spouses are all secular liberals.

By all rights, I should be a member in good standing of their tribe, “liking” their Facebook posts and joining their candlelight vigils against the evil Trump Administration. But November 8 and its aftermath revealed to me that I am just so tired of these people. I can’t be like them, and I don’t want my kids turning into them.

I am tired of their undisguised contempt for tens of millions of Americans, with no effort to temper their response to the election with humility or empathy.

I am tired of their unexamined snobbery and condescension.

I am tired of their name-calling and virtue-signaling as signs of supposedly high intelligence.

I am tired of their trendiness, jumping on every left-liberal bandwagon that comes along (transgender activism, anyone?) and then acting like anyone not on board is an idiot/hater.

I am tired of their shallowness. It’s hard to have a deep conversation with people who are obsessed with moving their kids’ pawns across the board (grades, sports, college, grad school, career) and, in their spare time, entertaining themselves and taking great vacations.

I am tired of their acceptance of vulgarity and sarcastic irreverence as the cultural ocean in which their kids swim. I like pop culture as much as the next person, but people who would never raise their kids on junk food seem to think nothing of letting then wallow in cultural junk, exposed to nothing ennobling, aspirational, or even earnest.

I am tired of watching them raise clueless kids (see above) who go off to college and within months are convinced they live in a rapey, racist patriarchy; “Make America Great Again” is hate speech; and Black Lives Matter agitators are their brothers-in-arms against White Privilege. If my kids are like that at nineteen, I’ll feel I’ve seriously failed them as a parent. Yet the general sentiment seems to be these are good, liberal kids who may have gotten a bit carried away.

I am tired of their lack of interest in any form of serious morality or self-betterment. These are decent, responsible people, many compassionate by temperament. Yet they seem two-dimensional, as if they believe that being a nice, well-socialized person who holds the correct political views is all there is, and there is nothing else to talk about. Isn’t there, though?

I am tired of being bored and exasperated by everybody. I feel like I have read this book a thousand times, and there are no surprises in it. Down with Trump! Trans Lives Matter! Climate deniers are destroying the planet! No cake, we’re gluten-free!

These are good people in a lot of ways. But there has got to be a better tribe.

That leads me to . . . drum roll . . . the Christian Right. It is no small feat, switching tribes. It feels stressful and weird to abandon your tribe for the Detested Other Side.

Since November 8, my husband and I have been taking the kids to church. (He is politically conservative with a religious bent, so no argument there.) I have come this close to buying a giant poster of the American flag for the living room. I may do it still.

Right now, I am struggling to accept the basic Christian doctrines (virgin birth, resurrection, second coming) because I feel the Christian tribe may be the right tribe for my family. We just finished watching a BBC miniseries about the birth of Jesus, which was so beautiful and moving compared to secular TV. My nine-year-old really enjoyed it. I want to prepare my kids to live according to some unchanging truth, not subject to every passing trend, and this felt like a start. But I worry that an inability to believe in the supernatural aspects of the faith will limit my ability to be a “real” Christian.

Last Sunday’s sermon mentioned 1 Peter:18-19, “For you know that it was not with perishable things such as silver or gold that you were redeemed from the empty way of life handed down to you from your ancestors.” This may be obvious to you, but secular liberalism does seem empty in some way, despite all the things my educated, middle-class tribe has to be grateful for. If that’s what’s been handed down to me, I want more, especially for my precious kids. I’m trying.

I plan to respond to this reader privately, but she said I could share this letter as long as I protected her identity. What a courageous person she is. God bless her on her journey.

source

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5:39 am 24/12/2016

Vormid

It might not be fake but it is not news.

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1:13 pm 24/12/2016

LordViscera

well, from the Union of Soviet Socialists of MA this is stunning to hear a liberal turning away from their "tribe"

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12:58 pm 27/12/2016

backroom

There are many different varieties of liberal bastions.
NY and MA are as different as night and day and right next to each other.
California is as much removed from the

Quote by LordViscera:
Union of Soviet Socialists of MA

as Donald Trump is from humility.

Seriously... spend some time out there...
You will return with a new found love for the state that for you have chosen to stay in... and new reasons to stay.

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2:04 pm 27/12/2016

LordViscera

thanks, but I have lived here for the first 11 years of my life, and then from the age of 27-present (51) so I lived in the Berkshires, Boston, the North and South Shores and Cape Cod. Please stop acting like somehow you have "seen the wonders of the land I live in" and I haven't. It's not as bad as some places, and certainly has alot of natural beauty, but the political and economic climate aren't great. the fact I live here is a testimony to the amount of love I have for my wife, and nothing more

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2:25 pm 27/12/2016

backroom

Quote by LordViscera:
but the political and economic climate aren't great


You seem to think that they are... somewhere.

I have no disagreement with your thread starter. My comment is from your comment... and the illusion that life is just terrible in MA.

Quote by LordViscera:
the fact I live here is a testimony to the amount of love I have for my wife, and nothing more


Love is a wonderful thing. We all make many decisions, good and bad, based upon it's influence.
It transcends all other emotion, self interest and thought processes.

Except hating where you live.

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2:52 am 28/12/2016

LordViscera

so comforting to me that you are an expert on everything....except politcs apparently

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2:58 am 28/12/2016

LordViscera

Quote by backroom:
You seem to think that they are... somewhere.


There are better places, try looking at articles that rate each state according to their economic climate, standard of living etc. Some states have lower state taxes (God forbid you acknowledge that) better economic climates (again something ypu apparently believe I dream up. Hey doesn't NY allow businesses that are coming from out of state to avoid having to pay taxes to....wait for it.....entice them to come to the Empire state?) See if you would just acknowledge that these things do matter to some people (like someone trying to run a small business, like oh I don't know a landscape company) then the credibility on your side would probably skyrocket, kinda like the stock market since Trump won and the economic adolescent that is in office now is on the way out, but he has to take parting shots to insure his "legacy" before the broom comes out by trying to cripple two industries he vowed to ruin, coal and oil. Quite the loving and concerned man who only cares about the American worker.

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4:50 am 28/12/2016

backroom

Quote by LordViscera:
There are better places, try looking at articles that rate each state...


I don't dispute any of your individual points. I doubt you have used the combined information to make a decision because..

Quote by LordViscera:
the fact I live here is a testimony to the amount of love I have for my wife, and nothing more


If you did actually make the comparisons as you claim than you understand that a higher standard of living means higher housing, food and transportation costs. Things that are not good for small businesses.
Lower taxes means less money for education and infrastructure. Will stupid kids and failing bridges make America great?
The fact that you even mention StartUp NY... a boutique initiative with stringent requirements... to prove a point is just more indication you are talking out of your ass in true Trump fashion. Even the slightest amount of research would have stopped you from using it as an example.

A little more research would show you that the market rise in the last 6 weeks has been primarily due to sell offs. Not usually a good sign for the economy.
As of last summer the markets have risen over 120% during the Obama administration... and gone even higher.
I do not believe the President has much to do with the market... but you apparently do.
So how does that dramatic and unprecedented increase indicate "economic adolescence"?

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kinda like the stock market since Trump won


Will you remember that as Trump destroys the economy or will you have to be reminded?

You come off as angry and uninformed but you question my credibility?
It is terrible that you can only take pride in winning when everyone loses.
But HRC lost. You got your's... fuck everybody else, right?
And because you live in a liberal bastion... he can't really do much to hurt you beyond the butt hurt you have been for the last 8 years.

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