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Will political correctness kill classic movies?

23 comments, 203 views, posted 7:46 am 14/05/2019 in TV, Movies & Reviews by REALITY
REALITY has 22852 posts, 8700 threads, 631 points, location: Don’t believe what I post - Research what I post.
I want to be the reason you get out of bed in the morning...Even if it is to make sure the door is locked.

The rise of political correctness can be seen across movie screens this weekend. 

“The Hustle,” a gender-swap remake of 1988's “Dirty Rotten Scoundrels,” rails against the patriarchy between sight gags. “Avengers: Endgame” shoehorns a minor gay character into the story as a super-virtue-signal. “Long Shot” shows Seth Rogen apologizing for the United States bombing Japan to help end World War II.

Even older films, and the stars who made them great, are now seen through the PC prism. Just ask the estate of John Wayne. The legendary star got pummeled a few months ago, decades after his passing, for a racially insensitive Playboy interview in 1971. Some critics demanded that his name be stripped from John Wayne Airport in Orange County, Calif.

Singer Kate Smith’s film career is dwarfed by her radio, TV and stage accomplishments. Yet Smith’s recording of two 1930s songs deemed racist convinced two professional sports teams — the New York Yankees and the Philadelphia Flyers — to strip her iconic rendition of “God Bless America” from their programming.

It’s easy to imagine the culture attempting to do something similar to films that don’t mirror today's cultural mores. Molly Ringwald, who brought some of John Hughes’s best films to life, turned on her collaborator last year, saying that his films weren’t "woke" enough in our "Me Too" era.

Those films primarily hit theaters in the 1980s. So what about older films? Would any modern studio greenlight 1974’s “Blazing Saddles,” the Mel Brooks farce teeming with racial and sexual humor?

What about James Bond's early adventures, in which 007 treated female characters in a sexist fashion? Even a comedy classic such as 1959's "Some Like It Hot," featuring two men dressed in drag, could be insensitive given modern mores.

Could problematic films eventually be pulled from home video and streaming services?

Sound hysterical? It's currently in vogue to tear down statues that don’t align with current groupthink. So why would pop culture artifacts be spared?

In fact, it’s already been done.

Two years ago, a Memphis theater nixed a screening of the 1939 classic “Gone with the Wind” because of its “insensitive” content.

Disney’s Oscar-winning “Song of the South” won’t be seen on the company’s forthcoming streaming platform. The 1946 film’s antiquated, and some say racist, portrayal of black life turned the movie into cultural poison. It’s never made it to home video, and that’s unlikely to change in the near future. 

The effort to wipe clean questionable content is happening elsewhere, too. The work itself doesn’t have to be “problematic” if the performer in front of the camera is. Bounce TV yanked reruns of “The Cosby Show”following star Bill Cosby’s conviction on rape charges.

When comedian Louis C.K. admitted to pleasuring himself in front of a series of women without their consent, he lost more than his FX series “Louie.” HBO announced it had expunged all C.K.-related programmingfrom its service, including stand-up specials and his series “Lucky Louie.”

His 2017 film, “I Love You, Daddy,” never hit theaters as intended following his revelation. More than a year later, the film can’t be found on home video or streaming outlets, despite rave reviews from its festival run. The film’s star, Chloe Grace Moretz, even argued against the film’s release. “I think it should just kind of go away, honestly,” the millennial actress told the press.

Her age matters because her peers represent a potent part of the PC movement. Just ask any conservative speaker chased off campus by students frightened by unfamiliar viewpoints.

Woody Allen’s historic film career may be over, and not because of his age or any health woes. Allegations of child abuse against his daughter Dylan Farrow while never proven, finally caught up with the “Annie Hall” superstar. Amazon refused to release Allen’s latest work, “A Rainy Day in New York,” citing Allen’s "Me Too" statement in court.

One highly controversial film, and its collective shunning, predates the current PC mania. The 1915 drama “Birth of a Nation” glorified the KKK and dehumanized black slaves, among other revolting elements. Cultural critics marvel at some of its artistic achievements, given the technical constraints of the era, but its content makes any public display cultural dynamite.

Is that the best way to deal with art? Wouldn’t a screening of the film, followed by an informed dialogue on its place in culture and how the real KKK used it as a recruiting tool, be more illuminating?

Audiences could process the material on their own terms along with the vital context.

That’s the key word missing from PC-themed conversations — “context.” Without it, PC scolds too often win the day.

Hughes couldn’t have imagined his plucky teen comedy would one day be shamed by its star. And there’s a chance movies like “Long Shot,” “The Hustle,” and “Avengers: Endgame” may one day be seen as “problematic,” too, in ways we can’t imagine now. Who know how we’ll handle art that doesn’t fit the current zeitgeist by then?

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11:27 am 14/05/2019

griffin

Quote by REALITY:
the current PC mania


Hmmm. Don't be a dick. Don't be a racist dick. Don't be a racist sexist dick. Am I missing something? Oh, and I have watched a vhs copy of Song of the South, so it made to vhs at some point.

Quote by REALITY:
ask any conservative speaker chased off campus by...


...peaceful protest?

Is this the new conservative? A supporter of the loud mouthed crude asshole trump, yet a snowflake to the core, concerned about a pc flood washing away his tiny dick? I'm trying hard to reconcile the chanting trumptard mob with people who are concerned about pc and want to have an "an informed dialogue" about anything at all, really.

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3:54 pm 14/05/2019

Flee

Quote:
Don't be a dick.

that conflicts with any joke that may be deemed insensitive to said dick. This is the problem we face.

Looks Jim Jefferies now. He is a huge pussy. Pandering to everyone. He had a joke that ends with "so I raped her to teach her a lesson"

Jimmy Kimmel? Has no one asked him about The Man Show?

Good comedians going soft.

Bring back Patrice O'Neal.


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4:03 pm 14/05/2019

Flee

Quote:
...peaceful protest?


Not always. Look at ben Shapiro and his attempts at speaking in some schools. You don't have to spend many thousands of dollars on security (the school, not ben), for peaceful protest. Many have resulted in injury and damage. Same for Milo. Pretty much any top level conservative speaker has these issues.

Milo is a total dick but to say the protests against him are only peaceful is just ignoring the truth.

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8:08 pm 14/05/2019

griffin

Quote by Flee:
Milo is a total dick but to say the protests against him are only peaceful is just ignoring the truth.


I don't have any hard data on that. Have you got some? I hear a lot of whining, but how much fire is behind that smoke is simply conjecture, as far as I can tell.

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9:05 pm 14/05/2019

REALITY

I blame Communism.


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9:28 pm 14/05/2019

Flee




Same event. Various sources.

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9:30 pm 14/05/2019

Flee

It doesn't always happen but there is never any need for it.

Berkeley is a school full of dicks.

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9:34 pm 14/05/2019

Flee

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12:03 am 15/05/2019

griffin

So there isn't any data on college protests, their frequency, and how often they include violence or the threat of violence?

NM found this:

https://niskanencenter.org/blog/the-campus-free-speech-crisis-ended-last-year/

Haven't had a chance to read the whole thing, but the data appear to indicate a lack of a problem.

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12:18 am 15/05/2019

griffin

This too:

https://medium.com/informed-and-engaged/campus-speech-protests-dont-only-target-conservatives-though-they-frequently-target-the-same-few-bda3105ad347

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12:22 am 15/05/2019

griffin

To be honest, this notion that free speech is being drowned in a pc wave smells like bullshit, that people believe anyway despite lack of evidence. It reminds me of when trump and sanders both lied their worthless asses off as candidates and said the economy was in the shitter. The economy was doing great, the data don't lie, and a few months later trump is taking credit for a economic turnaround that doesn't exist, except in the belief profiles of his true believers.

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12:50 am 15/05/2019

Flee

Quote by griffin:
So there isn't any data on college protests, their frequency, and how often they include violence or the threat of violence?

NM found this:

https://niskanencenter.org/blog/the-campus-free-speech-crisis-ended-last-year/

Haven't had a chance to read the whole thing, but the data appear to indicate a lack of a problem.


We aren't looking to formulate an equation on this . We are just saying it happens. No need to nerd it up and multiply pi to come up with a universal constant for school aggression

You're way overthinking this.

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12:58 am 15/05/2019

Flee

Quote by griffin:
To be honest, this notion that free speech is being drowned in a pc wave smells like bullshit, that people believe anyway despite lack of evidence. It reminds me of when trump and sanders both lied their worthless asses off as candidates and said the economy was in the shitter. The economy was doing great, the data don't lie, and a few months later trump is taking credit for a economic turnaround that doesn't exist, except in the belief profiles of his true believers.


Schools release lists of things you can't do or say. I recall one list about offensive Halloween costumes that need to be avoided.

2 years ago a girl I know went out dressed as an Indian and people commented to her that her costume was offensive.

Also just the aspect of having to refer to people by their preferred pronoun. This is all telling people what to say and think, hence muffling free speech.

Sure, there are assholes out there. Let them be assholes, and don't associate with them. No need to Reeee in their face or take a swing.

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12:59 am 15/05/2019

griffin

People are saying there is a problem. They are way overstating the case. At least from the data I found.

"most of the incidents where presumptively conservative speech has been interrupted or squelched in the last two or three years seem to involve the same few speakers: Milo Yiannopoulos, Ben Shapiro, Charles Murray, and Ann Coulter " Snurk. I don't know who Murray is, but the other three are knuckle heads.

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1:01 am 15/05/2019

Flee

I'll agree with Ann and Milo. I find Ben to be a fairly reasonable dude. Not sure why he is so popular but I've watched/listened to a bunch of his speeches and he is far from offensive, and saying things that should be common sense.

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1:01 am 15/05/2019

Flee

Also no clue who the other guy is.

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1:01 am 15/05/2019

griffin

Quote by Flee:
Schools release lists of things you can't do or say.


Bet you can say more things in schools today than you could fifty years ago.

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1:02 am 15/05/2019

Flee

that depends on whether or not you were white

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1:03 am 15/05/2019

griffin

Quote by Flee:
I find Ben to be a fairly reasonable dude


Oh god, watch his bullshit on western civilization and judeo-christian values. What absolute bollocks cut from whole cloth. His ignorance is astounding. The notion that he is lecturing anyone on the subject is laughable. If I find the video I will link it. It is pitiful.

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1:04 am 15/05/2019

Flee


I think we went through a period in the 80s and 90s where anything goes, and now we are reeling it back a bit

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1:39 am 15/05/2019

griffin

Have a giggle:

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2:06 am 15/05/2019

Flee

Yeah. I want my 6min back. He isn't the one to be talking about these things. I do agree with him in the sense that we seem to be putting more emphasis on feelings than we should.

I find he use of words funny. How he slipped in"liberal" and "tyrannical". He comes off as just explaining something but clearly offering opinion, not fact.

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3:25 am 15/05/2019

griffin

A polished turd.

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